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# Are Chillers the Future
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## Are Chillers the Future
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^ Hello, I'm Michael Housh a contractor from the Cincinnati, Ohio area. Today
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we're here to talk about the viability of chillers in the residential market.
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This is a topic that I've been thinking about for the past 7 years. Disclaimer:
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All these are my thoughts and opinions, I do not have an inside scoop, I do not
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### It's not just because I like the art of piping systems
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[^1]: Projected to change refrigerants again in the next 10-15 years.
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[^1]: Projected to change refrigerants again in the next 10-15 years.
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^ The goal of this talk is to introduce you to the concepts of chillers in
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general and to start to think through the pros and cons of such systems in the
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### `https://app.mhoush.com`
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^ I created a web app for this talk for you to document _YOUR_ pros and cons
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^ Like any person who's never given a presentation before, I decided to ask
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Chat-GPT some questions. (move quickly through these next few slides).
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We'll start with the history of hydronic systems.
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- 20<sup>th</sup> century, introduction of pumps, energy efficiency, zone controls
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- 20<sup>th</sup> century, introduction of pumps, energy efficiency, zone controls
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- Popular choice for contemporary HVAC Systems
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- Popular choice for contemporary HVAC Systems
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^ I find it interesting that hydronic systems / heating in general dates back to the Romans.
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^ Next, I asked Chat-GPT to define what a chiller is and how they're used.
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# Define Chillers
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# Define Chillers
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# What do we do?
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# What do we do?
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^ Next, let's define what we do as HVAC technicians, designers, installers? Ask the audience to answer.
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# What do we do?
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# What do we do?
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- Provide healthy, safe, and comfortable environment.
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**Provide healthy, safe, and comfortable environment.**
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- We move heat from one place to another, generally through refrigerant and air circulation...
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# What do we do?
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- **_We move heat from one place to another, generally through refrigerant and air circulation._**
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- Water _IS_ a refrigerant (R-718).
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- Water _IS_ a refrigerant (R-718).
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^ Second one is important to remember for later in the talk.
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`https://hvacrschool.com/sensible-heat-in-air-and-water`
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`https://hvacrschool.com/sensible-heat-in-air-and-water`
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^ Can anyone tell me why this matters?
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^ As a fun fact, I stole this from an article I wrote for HVAC School named sensible-heat-in-air-and-water.
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_Source: **Modern Hydronic Heating**, by: John Siegenthaler, P.E._
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_Source: **Modern Hydronic Heating**, by: John Siegenthaler, P.E._
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^ Add to pros list.
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# A Home is Complex
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# A Home is Complex
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**_A home requires harmony between many different mechanical systems._**
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complex thing, made up of a bunch of sub-systems that all need to be in harmony
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^ This image shows some of the different sub-systems of a house. I stole this
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# HVAC Key Characteristics
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4. **Zoning Control**:
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4. **Zoning Control**:
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- Allows for the creation of different temperature zones in larger buildings, enabling tailored comfort levels in different areas.
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- Allows for the creation of different temperature zones in larger buildings, enabling tailored comfort levels in different areas.
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^ (move quickly). For me comfort and IAQ are the biggest ones I care about in this
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- Can be designed to accommodate future expansion or changes in usage, making it flexible for evolving needs.
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- Can be designed to accommodate future expansion or changes in usage, making it flexible for evolving needs.
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12. **Environmental Responsibility**:
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- Utilizes eco-friendly refrigerants and practices to minimize environmental impact.
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- Utilizes eco-friendly refrigerants and practices to minimize environmental impact.
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#### A well-designed HVAC system is essential for providing a comfortable, healthy, and efficient indoor environment.
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- Many chiller systems are water-cooled, which can be more efficient than air-cooled systems, particularly in larger settings. Water has a higher thermal capacity than air, leading to more effective heat exchange.
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- Many chiller systems are water-cooled, which can be more efficient than air-cooled systems, particularly in larger settings. Water has a higher thermal capacity than air, leading to more effective heat exchange.
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#### _Chiller systems offer several advantages over traditional HVAC systems._
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- Chiller systems are generally robust and, if properly maintained, can have a longer lifespan than traditional HVAC units. Their design often allows for easier maintenance and repair.
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- Chiller systems are generally robust and, if properly maintained, can have a longer lifespan than traditional HVAC units. Their design often allows for easier maintenance and repair.
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- Chiller systems often incorporate advanced building management systems, enabling better monitoring, automation, and integration with other building systems for improved overall performance.
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- Chiller systems often incorporate advanced building management systems, enabling better monitoring, automation, and integration with other building systems for improved overall performance.
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